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Requested move 22 November 2019[edit]
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
TSMC → Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company – WP:NCA: Although TSMC or Taiwan Semiconductor are used in many news headers for space-saving purposes, the company's primary recognizable name should be Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (its full legal name minus the "ltd."). That is also the name on company profiles by CNBC and Bloomberg, which only use "TSMC" for subsequent mentions. -- Nemoschool (talk) 03:40, 22 November 2019 (UTC)—Relisting. Dekimasuよ! 11:44, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
- It refers to itself as TSMC https://www.tsmc.com/english/aboutTSMC/index.htm , so I think TSMC is indeed the common name, which should remain as the title.--Roy17 (talk) 00:02, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
Support. Abbreviations are jargon, and are supposed to be defined on first use. This means don’t use abbreviations in titles, as a rule, exceptions should be exceptional. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:06, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
- TSMC is just like BBC, CNN, etc., that goes by its abbreviation more commonly, as the link I wrote above shows.--Roy17 (talk) 14:59, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
- Having relisted, I won't express an opinion here, but I would note that this something like the 30th largest company in the world, so in many ways the company probably is fairly exceptional. Dekimasuよ! 16:42, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah maybe, but no. TSMC does not ring link BBC, CNN, DNA, or USSR. And Wikipedia is not a company directory, in fact Wikipedia gives companies the hardest time for all topics.
- However, on a second look, strongly prefer Taiwan Semiconductor to the proposed, preferred by several naming criteria. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:24, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose the proposed title. Inconcise, and not used. I still want to prefer Taiwan Semiconductor, but sources appear to use TSMC as if it is exceptional, like IBM. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:31, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CONCISE. Looks like TSMC is often used as the only name of the company, like in this article. I think this is like IBM. Also WP:TITLECHANGES, as there is no good reason to move, since the full name is given in the lead anyway. We should continue to convey that the company is best known as TSMC by keeping that as the title. --В²C ☎ 20:25, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
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TSC and TSMC are NOT the same company[edit]
Hello fellow Wikipedians, I found the claim in leading section, that "Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, Limited, also known as Taiwan Semiconductor" is highly misleading. Currently, Taiwan Semiconductor also redirects to here.
I've searched the web and found that there exists another independent company called "Taiwan Semiconductor". According to its website,
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Taiwan Semiconductor was established in 1979 and remains under the direction of its founder and CEO, Arthur Wang. The company has grown from its beginnings as a local manufacturer, to a global enterprise with 2,000 employees. Taiwan Semiconductor is publicly traded on the Stock Exchange Corporation of Taiwan. Recognized for more than 40 years for its core competence in discrete Power Rectifiers, Taiwan Semiconductor has expanded its product portfolio to include Trench Schottkys, MOSFETs, Power Transistors, LED Driver ICs, Analog ICs and ESD Protection Devices, and now provides a complete solution from one source.[1]
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So, it appears that,
- Taiwan Semiconductor's abbreviation is TSC.
- It's a major manufacturer of discrete semiconductor components, not state-of-art integrated circuit.
- The company is traded on the Stock Exchange Corporation of Taiwan, as Taiwan Semiconductor Co Ltd. [2]
In conclusion, it's certain that TSMC and TSC are two unrelated companies, the current claim is incorrect. To fix this issue, I'm going to remove the claim that it's "also known as Taiwan Semiconductor" and will add additional clarifications. I'm also going to submit the redirect Taiwan Semiconductor for deletion.
If anyone has disagreements and is willing to defend the previous version of the article, I'd like to hear your opinion, don't forget to provide some citations for verification. Thanks. Bieraaa (talk) 08:28, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- Update: The result of the deletion of the redirect page is Keep, I've withdrawn the nomination. I'm persuaded that adding the clarification is enough to avoid confusion. Bieraaa (talk) 15:49, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
